Top 33 largest cities in Australia by population in 2012

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  1. Thew says:

    The official list of the top 33 centres for the next 4 months until the ABS revise them again….

  2. margot capuano says:

    Glad you explained about Why 33? I would have wondered. Also time I moved to Hobart, although Mt. Gambier sounds good and I can stay on the mainland!!!

  3. Rob H says:

    Interesting. Hobart goes for quality over quantity!

    I note that Burnie and Devonport are put together in this list. They’re obviously separate geographically, but do they often get put together for statistical purposes?

  4. I’m not sure why they get put together. There are 3 main population regions in Tasmania, of which the North-West coast is one of them, so I guess it’s just putting that together. There isn’t a lot of distance between urban areas up there, but you’re right, they’re not continuous. Bathurst-Orange used to be combined similarly but is now split up (so that neither make the top 33). You’d need to ask ABS Geography.

  5. B Harding says:

    It seems that your site is more honest than most. Nevertheless, when is ths Toronto syndrome (adding in totally separate cities, Mississauga and Oshawa to boost its actual population) going to stop?
    We should be honest and allow Melbourne to pass Sydney gracefully, not allow Sydney to swallow every nearby town, the entire Blie Mountains towns and the Central Coast, simply to pretend that Sydney remains the largest city.
    If this myth is maintained, why can’t Melbourne swallow CLOSER populations such as Geelong and Ballarat? Doesn’t that follow? Commuters from the last named still go to work in metropolitan Melbourne.

    • Good point – the definitions of these areas are based on labour markets, so sometimes they can seem a bit odd. Central Coast and Blue Mountains people – a significant % work within urban Sydney so they are included as part of that region. Another odd one though much smaller is Burnie-Devonport as one area in northern Tas – most would keep these separate.

      And in the latest geographic revision, Melbourne’s area has expanded to take in a lot of small towns as well (eg. Gisborne, Kinglake).

  6. Greg says:

    Blue Mts and Central Coast are clearly geographically separate from Sydney with their own identities. It is nonsense to suggest that they should be included in Sydney’s population just because there is a sizable commuter population.

    I accept that a city can have a larger population than simply the contiguous area suggests, but surely the neighbouring cities and towns should be adjacent and part of a broader identifiable community. An obvious example is Newcastle where the 5 lower Hunter LGA’s of Newcastle, Lake Macquarie, Cessnock, Maitland and Port Stephens are close neighbours and even share suburbs with each other.

    Gosford and Wyong are no more part of Newcastle than they are part of Sydney even though they are as close or even closer to Newcastle than Sydney (Wyong’s northern suburbs are just 40km from Newcastle CBD).

    • Hi Greg,

      Actually the Blue Mountains are not only in the Sydney SD, most of the population is in the “Sydney urban centre” which is the contiguous urban area you refer to. Based on the Linge criteria developed in the 1960s, contiguous urban areas are included as a single centre if they have a continuous population of at least 200 people per square kilometre and outlying centres can be included if they have a gap of less than 3 km. Lapstone-Glenbrook joins to Penrith and all the centres out to Katoomba then meet this criterion. It is a single urban entity all the way.

      Also, 55% of Blue Mountains workers commute to other suburban parts of Sydney.

      Central Coast defnitely doesn’t have the continuous nature of the mountains, being separated by the Hawkesbury River and national parks. It’s a separate urban centre, but is included because around 35% of the workforce work in Sydney (if you look at Wyong though, there is definitely a movement towards Newcastle as well).

      The Newcastle statistical district (as used for the population in this list) does include the 5 LGAs you mentioned.

      With the move to the new geography standard, the ABS is less constrained by LGAs when defining statistical divisions, but has left the Sydney region relatively unchanged.

  7. Cate says:

    Fascinating.
    This puts the Education Black Hole with it’s population of 91,733 (across the middle of the municipalities of Draebin and Mooreland in Melbourne) as being almost the size of the 20th biggest city in Australia (Bendigo) and yet has not one open entry 7-12 high school!
    Interestingly the Age newspaper recently reported that independant planning advice stated the 60,000 new residents in the Fishermans Bend urban renewal project would warrant two new high schools.
    http://www.highschoolforcoburg.org

  8. James Coburn says:

    Hi Glenn,
    I live in the CITY of Shoalhaven with a population at the 2011 census of 98,076 which would rank it 19 ahead of Ballarat in the ranking –why is it broken up in the stats – as I reckon we miss out on lotsa funding and priorities as a result of same –

  9. Hi James,

    Good point – the reason is that Shoalhaven, though an incorporated City in NSW, has a spread out population that doesn’t constitute a single urban area, with wide gaps between the centres. In fact there are many towns and coastal villages strung out along over 100km of coastline and hinterland. Nowra-Bomaderry does form an urban area in this list, but comes in at number 39, with a population of 34,957.

  10. Davo of Thornside says:

    Where is Redland City in this list. We are a city, and are around the population of Darwin I believe.

    • Hi Davo,

      This list is not local govermment based -but based on the urban areas of centres. As such, Redland (along with Ipswich, Logan and Moreton Bay) is included as a part of the population of Brisbane.

      Glenn

  11. Ray Giaola says:

    Why don’t you have Ipswich Queensland in your list?

  12. Royce Allenson says:

    Where is the Central Coast of this population list. At over 300,000, we should be in the top 12.

  13. Ian watts says:

    By your counting is Logan City Q. (which has nearly 300,000 people) being counted as a part of Brisbane?

  14. Audrey Greenwood says:

    I don’t find it surprising that Sydney tops this list. There’s just so much opportunity here, that’s why I moved to Sydney all those years ago. The fact that it continues to stay on top just goes to show how many other people all still have the same idea.

  15. Andrew Honan says:

    Got to ask where Lake Macquarie is on the list?
    http://lakemac.com.au/page.aspx?pid=770&vid=17
    Not that I really care, just putting it out there.

  16. Phillip Martinelli says:

    Lake Macquarie is local government area, and a part of Newcastles metropolitan population. It is right there at number 7.

  17. Mick says:

    How is Toowoomba bigger than Mackay? Seriously, 50,000 more people live in Toowoomba? I’ve been to both places and Mackay is much larger. Why does the ABS give Mackay a population of 176,000 here? – http://stat.abs.gov.au/itt/r.jsp?RegionSummary&region=312&dataset=ABS_NRP9_ASGS&geoconcept=REGION&datasetASGS=ABS_NRP9_ASGS&datasetLGA=ABS_NRP9_LGA&regionLGA=REGION&regionASGS=REGION

  18. Mick says:

    Mackay – http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/census_services/getproduct/census/2011/quickstat/312?opendocument&navpos=220

    You guys need to get better data instead of using wikipedia.

    You also should measure each city the same!!!

    • The ABS defines the boundaries of cities using a combination of built-up areas, and labour market regions. They may not seem obvious but there is a logic behind them. To “measure each city the same” is actually not so easy – drawing boundaries around areas is a science in itself, and you will always get people who don’t agree with where the boundary has been drawn.

      As far as Wikipedia, I’m not sure we used anything from Wikipedia in here. We do sometimes put links to Wikipedia in articles – it’s a great resource.

  19. john says:

    I note that Penrith is not mentioned with a population of just over 200,000. II also note that that Gosford/ Central Coast has been left off the chart. Penrith is now seen as a regional city and should not be includd in Sydney’ population graph. There are too many anomalies in the above figures.

    • Hi John,

      Penrith has been considered a part of metropolitan Sydney for many years now. It is completely contiguous with Sydney’s urban area and more than half the population leave the area to work in other parts of the metropolitan area. While 200,000 people is a lot, it is very much part of Greater Sydney. The Central Coast is more contentious due to a geographic barrier (Hawkesbury River) but due to similar labour force considerations, the ABS has regarded it as part of Sydney for at least the past decade.

  20. Terry says:

    Hi, why is not MELTON Vic with a population of 109000 not in the list. Surely it is not part of Melbourne or Ballarat as it is close to an hours drive for each

    • Hi Terry, Melton is only 40km from the Melbourne CBD and is generally considered part of Melbourne. It is a separate urban centre for the moment, but part of the Greater Melbourne area. Within the next 20 years it’s likely to join up with contiguous urban development to Melbourne anyway, with large areas of land around Rockbank earmarked for development.

  21. A Nemaric says:

    Over 13 million Australians live in the the Brisbane area and the two coasts adjacent, Sydney and Newcastle/the ‘Gong, Melbourne/Geelong. Another 3 million plus live in Adelaide and Perth. In other words we all prefer the coastal fringes, and leave the rest unpopulated. Looking at a map it appears we all leave on a handful of dots on the map, and the rest is uninhabitable, unattractive, or uneconomic. The 8 million or so who live out ‘there’ somewhere are slowly but surely gravitating to the big cities. Take for example one councillor in one western Victorian town, who said to me.” We will graduate another 102 students from the local high school this year, but only three students will find jobs in this area.” Inevitably, a city like Sydney will become a megapolis, with a population exceeding 20 million. The traffic in Sydney is impossible now, and any scheme to build infrastructure now to accomodate the future population will never be able to keep up. ( Of course, the Blue Mountains, and the Newcastle and Wollongong areas will be a part of Sydney, as will southern parts of the Hunter Valley, so the increase in population will not necessarily mean a commensurate increase in traffic)

    It cannot be a good thing for cities to become sprawling cesspits of humanity, but it is equally tragic to see Australian country towns become ghost towns. To see homes in provincial centres empty and on the market for a song with no takers, and shops boarded up is becoming commonplace in this country. This is one of the three big problems facing the nation. The other problem is
    that with a population of 24 million (approx) we only have about 12 million in full time employment. We have three quarters of a million officially unemployed, and several more million underemployed, or children, the elderly or disabled. In other words, almost 12 million people in Australia don’t work. One of the reasons can be exemplified in the Motor Industry. In 1948 when we started to manufacture our own cars on our own assembly lines, on Australian soil, using Australian workers we celebrated wildly. Like the country towns of Australia, our assembly plants are ghost yards. We could not compete against the imported products, because everybody got paid too much. Especially, our managers, CEOs, Members of Parliament, and workers. Like James Scullin, Australia’s PM during the Great Depression said. “We all need to take a 10 percent pay cut, starting with me,”

    With our shrinking economy, and shifting population to the coastal fringes, these are our problems, and until addressed the problem just gets worst. Our PM, is of course, a man of enormous wealth, who has heeded the Trump message, and said he is will now listen to the average Australian. This, from his Point Piper ivory tower, whilst commuting in some air conditioned contraption to his ivory tower in Canberra. That is not where the people are, Mr. Turnbull. They are somewhere else.

  22. Tommy Lommy says:

    Hi, Shepparton is a lot bigger then Mildura btw, Mildura’s population is only 30 000 and where is bacchus marsh on this table just putting it out there

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